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 21 
 on: October 25, 2014, 12:46:05 PM 
Started by davisflyer - Last post by blakepilot
Wow that looks like a beautiful 340.  I'd love to see some panel detail pics.

 22 
 on: October 25, 2014, 11:13:06 AM 
Started by davisflyer - Last post by davisflyer
Here's a video I shot a few months ago flying into KADS in LIFR conditions.   I did not have the audio cable so I put some music which I hope doesn't annoy some too much.  If it does, just lower the volume...

Enjoy!


 23 
 on: October 25, 2014, 09:56:28 AM 
Started by RaisinBran - Last post by Ace Rockola
One of the local TV news programs played the full audio and said that all of the voices heard were those of either ATC or survivors, though how they could have known that early on is beyond me unless they already interviewed the two released from the hospital and one of them claimed the haunting transmission in question was in fact him.

I was wondering the same thing.  I have seen no reporting that lists the source of who made that transmission.  It is a recording I wish I had never heard.  Unfortunately, the Wash Post and others had links to the full recording, with no warning about what was on it.  I wanted to hear it strictly for the ATC part of it.  I did not want to hear what now haunts me.   

 24 
 on: October 25, 2014, 09:49:12 AM 
Started by Golar - Last post by Ace Rockola
It is gratuitous and inhumane, not to mention highly disturbing - for LiveATC.net to release this without regard for the families of this tragedy.   How hard would it have been, to edit out the screaming ?   The press ran with this audio clip, and also chose to play all of it.  No warning was given to listeners by you or the press.

I sure as shit, didn't need to hear that.  Whether it came from the helicopter pilot or fixed wing pilot, is irrelevant.

 

 25 
 on: October 25, 2014, 12:15:47 AM 
Started by RaisinBran - Last post by InterpreDemon
One of the local TV news programs played the full audio and said that all of the voices heard were those of either ATC or survivors, though how they could have known that early on is beyond me unless they already interviewed the two released from the hospital and one of them claimed the haunting transmission in question was in fact him.

 26 
 on: October 24, 2014, 11:51:15 PM 
Started by RaisinBran - Last post by mdflyer9
The Washington Post has an excellent article on this tragedy. 
RIP to all aboard. 


http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/investigators-on-scene-of-plane-helicopter-crash-near-frederick/2014/10/24/b26a5630-5b7a-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html

 27 
 on: October 24, 2014, 09:26:36 PM 
Started by RaisinBran - Last post by Turbo69bird
Let me start by saying, I hope this us received well and taken the way I intend, it's always hard with writing to convey emotion. I didn't hear the audio, didn't even know there was any controversy over it or that it contained anything, agonizing.

I do however, try to listen to any accident atc recordings. Not for entertainment in any way, but to help keep me from ever doing anything that might get me or anyone else in trouble, to keep me learning, and to keep me respecting what could happen.

It's human nature to Push the envelope in some way,(not that it was a factor in this case) or none of us would even consider flying. However hearing the voices of our fellow pilots in distress or who didn't make it, makes it very real (at least for me) I don't ever forget it. I think about those voices every time I climb in a plane and I feel like I owe it to those pilots to do the right thing and be a very safe pilot. To always ( try to) err on the side of caution. Some guys bust my stones for being so safety conscious, but Its those who didn't make it, that keep me trying my hardest to be safe.

I for one listen with the utmost respect for the people on the tapes.

Having not heard it, I can't judge what was on it or the decision to remove it. ( IMO it should be up to those close to the people)

 I do know, I grieve, for the Family's of the people from this crash and any other crash. I'm sure it's little comfort, but Id like to think each crash Ive looked into has given me one tip, one piece if information that makes me be a little bit safer, More so than any text book could.

Sadly where there's traffic there will probably always be accidents., maybe ADSB in and out will help to minimize this type if thing in the future, Help us to know where each other are located. It's certainly not always easy to know.

 28 
 on: October 24, 2014, 08:30:36 PM 
Started by RaisinBran - Last post by Robert Larson
Remember you're MUCH more likely to die on your drive to the airport. Keep your head on a swivel. See and avoid.  'Course, helps to have a CAPS equipped Cirrus too if you can get one.

 29 
 on: October 24, 2014, 08:23:53 PM 
Started by RaisinBran - Last post by idriveacomet
Not sure, I saw it last night when there was probably 5-6 replies. One user mentioned that his brother was in the helicopter.

My brother was the instructor pilot.  He was doing what he loved as a career.  I too wonder if that was him I heard in the audio.  Although I am pretty certain it was.  
I love him very much.  
Thanks to all for your prayers and condolences.

Brian

 30 
 on: October 24, 2014, 07:11:04 PM 
Started by kempboeing - Last post by kempboeing
I have noticed in the past few days that this whining has come up in the background of the JFK Tower feed. Any thought as to what this is or how it could be resolved?

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