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 on: July 01, 2015, 04:11:21 AM 
Started by rtcapo - Last post by Brad G.
Devil's advocate time:

If I ask you to take one page that you have printed and demonstrate its valid dates, can you do it.
Can you do the same with the sectional you went out and bought without unfolding it? After all, that's pretty much the equivalent scenario with a commercial sectional product, right? (I'm assuming "printing your own" means you didn't find a way to print the sectionals on a true single-sheet, sectional-size piece of paper.)

Even if you can't prove the self-printed chart is current... why would that matter? Unless you actually had outdated charts and the use of those charts was determined to have been a contributing factor in an incident, there's no requirement to prove that you have valid/updated charts.

"You can carry old charts in your aircraft." "It is not FAA policy to violate anyone for having outdated charts in the aircraft." (Source: What is the FAA policy for carrying current charts?)

EDIT: Likewise, none of the CFRs I could find (which really don't even apply to private pilots flying small GA craft anyway) regulated the source of the charts in any way that I could discern.

 on: June 30, 2015, 09:43:49 PM 
Started by rtcapo - Last post by martyj19
You must have the necessary charts for your flight in the airplane and they must be current.  Printing your own, so far as I know, does not satisfy this requirement.
If I ask you to take one page that you have printed and demonstrate its valid dates, can you do it.
There are now some electronic alternatives but you would have to be careful to be sure that they are certified as equivalent to paper charts for your flight.
If you were to be ramp checked or be involved in an incident, you could be violated.

If you are a student pilot, your flight school should be able to direct you to the applicable regulations.
If you are a student pilot, your flight school may have something to say about whether they would allow you to use electronic alternatives.
Be especially careful to have everything in order on your practical test.

 on: June 30, 2015, 09:07:54 PM 
Started by rtcapo - Last post by 1053857
My advice to you is that if you're going to fly, either buy an up to date sectional (paper format) or buy a foreflight subscription and use the digital sectional on your iPad.

 on: June 30, 2015, 06:56:43 PM 
Started by dannews - Last post by neurotech
Why would they declare "Pan Pan" (URGENCY) after the controller clearly said "Emergency"?

Wouldn't it be simpler just to "Declare Emergency"? Its been a while since I flew down in Australia, but I thought that Australian controllers will declare an emergency even if the pilot doesn't actually declare it themselves. The controller declaring emergency is pretty typical in the US.

 on: June 30, 2015, 04:26:12 PM 
Started by dbperry - Last post by VictorAtienza94
Here's the video I made about the crash.

Thanks dbperry for sharing the audio clip and helping me out with my doubt. wink


 on: June 30, 2015, 03:40:31 PM 
Started by hayek - Last post by VictorAtienza94
Working on a video about this, thanks for sharing!!!

Fortunately, no major injuries were reported except for the chopper grin grin

Jokes apart, luckily the two operators are well wink

 on: June 30, 2015, 03:37:38 PM 
Started by rtcapo - Last post by rtcapo
I'm a returning student pilot and love the sectionals online and being able to print them yourselves.

I'm wondering, does anyone pay for them anymore?

I did a search, and didn't really find anything...but if this subject has been covered ad nausem...I'd appreciate the link.



 on: June 30, 2015, 02:17:56 PM 
Started by hayek - Last post by Brad G.
Two pilots suffered minor injuries.
"Fortunately, both crew members were able to exit the aircraft."

Unfortunately, based on the description and picture... I think that craft might need some more TLC from maintenance now. A lot of it.

Wonder what "malfunction" occurred during the hover?

 on: June 30, 2015, 01:22:26 PM 
Started by hayek - Last post by hayek

Silence shortened.

 on: June 30, 2015, 06:36:25 AM 
Started by Gstrawley - Last post by Gstrawley
A Paris-bound Aeromexico 787 declared a Mayday and diverted to Dublin on Monday for what turned out to be a smoke alarm possibly triggered by a large cargo of mangoes. I found an article here:


The device I'm using makes it difficult to download the audio for editing, but you can listen to it in the archives under EINN Twr/Apprch. The emergency runs from about 1320 to at least 1410 Zulu, but it's pretty standard stuff. No mention of mangoes so far.

I imagine Boeing will be adjusting sensors on the next production run.

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