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 41 
 on: February 06, 2016, 10:19:49 PM 
Started by slayer816 - Last post by InterpreDemon
Jet, he did say "tell Virgin to go around" a few seconds after he said "he's overshooting the right". It's tough to pick out because it's in a double, just past a minute or so into it. I had to listen to it several times but it is definitely there. It's also not clear to me who that pilot was, the signal suggests he was airborne, but there was a flight holding short of 28L also. I did not hear, "we are not overshooting" in that high pitched voice, it sounds to me like "...at's this about overshooting?" This truly is a case where a picture would be worth a hundred words.

I used to be indecisive about this but now I am not so sure smiley

 42 
 on: February 06, 2016, 09:53:11 PM 
Started by slayer816 - Last post by JetScan1
My take,

Redwood 345 was on the FMS bridge visual runway 28R which is basically straight in but slightly offset to the right, it's also usually flown with the autpoilot engaged in LNAV/VNAV ("FMS" visual). So it's unlikey they would have made a turning error for runawy 28L.

The other flight was Alaska 382 joining final for runway 28L from the south off a perpendicular base vector (heading 010, then cleared the visual), a tight 90 degree turn to final.

Both aircraft reported each other insight prior to getting approach clearance. It sounds like the Redwood crew thought the Alaska flight was overshooting their turn for 28L into their 28R approach course. (the centerline of the runways are only 750 feet apart).

It's Redwood 345 that says, "hey he's overshooting the right" (referring to Alaska) then it's Redwood that says they are in the go around, "Redwood's in the go around". Alaska 382 replies "We are not overshooting" (meaning the 28L centerline). After Tower enquires Alaska 382 says they are landing 28L and Redwood 345 immediately replies "nice job captain".

Redwood decides to continue and land anyway so perhaps in the end Alaska didn't actually go through the centerline as far as Redwood thought they were going to, or just did a tight turn that spooked the Redwood crew ?

I did not hear anyone say "tell Virgin to go around" that's in the title of this thread.


 43 
 on: February 06, 2016, 05:29:28 PM 
Started by slayer816 - Last post by InterpreDemon
Nothing vague about it to me. The Virgin flight (Redwood 345) was cleared to land visual 28R, another unidentified captain, probably on the ground holding short 28L but perhaps on final for 28R, saw him swinging wide and lining up for 28L (he called it overshooting, but he meant overshooting his base to final turn, not overshooting the touchdown zone), and then the Virgin pilot ("Who's overshooting?") landed 28L. At the end you hear a taxi instruction for him to cross 28R. So the unidentified captain was correct, and I even think the Virgin pilot realized his error as well, since when asked if he was going around he said after a brief hesitation that he was landing 28L... hence the sarcastic, "Nice job, captain" from the sidelines. LMAO

 44 
 on: February 06, 2016, 04:58:26 PM 
Started by slayer816 - Last post by StuSEL
And...absolutely nothing gained by the vague radio communications. Pretty silly.

 45 
 on: February 06, 2016, 03:34:04 PM 
Started by slayer816 - Last post by slayer816
LOL,  I guess they both landed.

 46 
 on: February 06, 2016, 01:27:13 PM 
Started by GeoffSM1 - Last post by GeoffSM1
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/2-planes-collide-in-midair-near-port-of-los-angeles/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/02/06/three-missing-after-two-planes-collide-in-mid-air-plunge-into-southern-california-waters.html

 47 
 on: February 06, 2016, 04:28:17 AM 
Started by J-LucB - Last post by J-LucB
I don't know. It has a strange behaviour nevertheless... http://fr24.com/2016-02-05/09:34/12x/BER344E/8bb3c12

 48 
 on: February 06, 2016, 02:26:52 AM 
Started by J-LucB - Last post by GeoffSM1
Extraordinary! Do you know why the French Air Force took such an interest in the Air Berlin plane? I believe such action would automatically  be taken if there had been a loss of communications. Was that the situation here?

 49 
 on: February 06, 2016, 02:16:06 AM 
Started by Squawk 7700 - Last post by Squawk 7700
Various Mil plus Blue Angels freqs are now live on my San Jose Approach #2 feed for Super Bowl 50 on Sunday.
Reception may be marginal due to my location but it's worth a try.

http://www.liveatc.net/play/ksjc_app2.pls

Ken

 50 
 on: February 05, 2016, 09:59:08 PM 
Started by dave - Last post by dave
KBOS feeds down due to network outage induced by a cable cut...snow took a tree out... city cut cable...1-3 day ETR

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