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Hi ogogog-

Along similar listening lines, and during bad weather at O'hare I have heard the approach controllers direct the pilots to proceed to the "Converging Runway 4 approach"
It seems to happen only during ILS conditions.

As a true layman I read that the controllers have gone to one runway only for access as it seems there is a great reduction in air speed required by the pilots from the controllers.

 I'm sure this is not accurate but could you clarify one you have a moment. Big Thanks!

Mark

I cross posted.  Sorry about that.  Video is also available at live wire.com.

["Pilots Brad Hasler of Trenton, Mich. and Jeremy Lipka of Brooklyn, Mich.; First Officer Rinku Summan of Canton, Mich.; loadmaster Michael Sheets of Ypsilanti, Mich.; First Officer Jamie Brokaw of Monroe, Mich.; and maintenance crew Gary Stockdale of Romulus, Mich. and Timothy Garrett of Louisville, Ky."]

National Airlines has released the names of the crew:

"Pilots Brad Hasler of Trenton, Mich. and Jeremy Lipka of Brooklyn, Mich.; First Officer Rinku Summan of Canton, Mich.; loadmaster Michael Sheets of Ypsilanti, Mich.; First Officer Jamie Brokaw of Monroe, Mich.; and maintenance crew Gary Stockdale of Romulus, Mich. and Timothy Garrett of Louisville, Ky."

From:

http://www.annarbor.com/news/ypsilanti/ypsilanti-man-killed-in-afghanistan-crash-remembered-as-a-loyal-family-man/#.UYFVEbtFWbx.facebook

May they rest in peace...

Livewire.com has video of the plane crash.  Note: graphic!

The incident occurred in the Santa Monica mountains near Malibu Canyon after they left SMO's Class Delta and went north.  I don't think either had flight following, but can't say for certain.  I didn't hear SoCal hailing for either of them, (on my radio's at least.)  It is a local practice, and sightseeing area.  

UPDATE: Just went through the archives on one of my feeds, I found transmissions from N4677V at 3100' @ 4 minutes, and 3500' @ 1 minute prior to the crash, on the Malibu practice area frequency.  I amended the recording.

Was there any more to the recording?  It seemed ATC advised them properly of the traffic and at least one pilot had the other in sight.  I don't get how this happens with both on flight following.  Sad.

Thanks for the info, Dave.  And thanks for whatever you did..I can hear tower, again.

Matt

Posted by Jpsoldier24:

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/04/30/weather-may-have-played-role-in-horrifying-bagram-airfield-crash/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost

I have posted more info here. I will copy your link and add it to my thread in the correct forum. This forum is for audio clips. 

http://www.liveatc.net/forums/aviation-incidents/national-airlines-b747-400f-crashes-in-afghanistan-seven-crew-lost/

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/04/30/weather-may-have-played-role-in-horrifying-bagram-airfield-crash/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost