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 on: January 21, 2015, 09:16:57 PM 
Started by mk223 - Last post by joeyb747
http://avherald.com/h?article=4807ef24&opt=0

 62 
 on: January 21, 2015, 09:15:44 PM 
Started by dorough - Last post by joeyb747
http://avherald.com/h?article=4807ef24&opt=0

 63 
 on: January 21, 2015, 08:55:23 PM 
Started by masterkeymaster - Last post by joeyb747
Cirrus Aircraft has a system called Cirrus Airframe Parachute System, or CAPS, already in use. See below:

http://cirrusaircraft.com/static/img/CAPS_Guide.pdf

BRS (Ballistic Recovery Systems) Aerospace also has a full airframe parachute system:

 http://www.brsaerospace.com/brs_aviation_home.aspx

If I am not mistaken, these systems have been in use for 10+ years now...

These are small airframe applications of course. Are you asking if, say, a Boeing 757 had an issue with Hydraulics and was unable to brake normally and the thrust reversers failed to deploy as well as spoilers failing to deploy...could the airplane be slowed like a dragster?

If that is the question, I would have to say it is possible...  Look at the Space Shuttle... Comes in virtually dead stick (hydraulics are powered up) and uses drag chutes to aid in deceleration.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOxZsbyjSb8

 64 
 on: January 21, 2015, 08:49:09 PM 
Started by mk223 - Last post by InterpreDemon
Well, that certainly will make a difference... because on the 18th JBU took off uneventfully at around 10:45 PM.

Will dig up the appropriate recordings and mix.

 65 
 on: January 21, 2015, 07:53:19 PM 
Started by mk223 - Last post by keith
Took me a long time to find it, too. It was actually Jan 17, here's the flight track with arrival time: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BWA526/history/20150117/2150Z/SYCJ/KJFK

 66 
 on: January 21, 2015, 04:46:30 PM 
Started by mk223 - Last post by InterpreDemon
I'm putting together a master from a different source, but need to know the exact Z time and date of the event. An early post on the other thread said the incident occurred at 22:30 local on the 18th, which would have been 0330 Z on the 19th, however what I find there is a female controller simulcasting on both tower frequencies with aircraft split between them.

 67 
 on: January 21, 2015, 03:58:43 PM 
Started by mk223 - Last post by keith
swa4678, good call. For reference, it would be good to find another call from redwood 56 on the same frequency (hence same scanner receiving it), maybe the readback of their landing clearance?

 68 
 on: January 21, 2015, 01:40:29 PM 
Started by masterkeymaster - Last post by JetScan1
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A.K.A. that frequency you were likely monitoring (except perhaps in terminal airspace) anyway, right?

Yep standard to have 121.500 up on #2 radio (in cruise). Your plan works too, if you're familiar with the frequencies.

 69 
 on: January 21, 2015, 01:22:13 PM 
Started by masterkeymaster - Last post by swa4678
121.500
A.K.A. that frequency you were likely monitoring (except perhaps in terminal airspace) anyway, right? Smiley

Even if you weren't, there's a very good chance ATC is. From AIM ยง 6-3-1(h)(1):
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121.5 MHz is guarded by direction finding stations and some military and civil aircraft. 243.0 MHz is guarded by military aircraft. Both 121.5 MHz and 243.0 MHz are guarded by military towers, most civil towers, FSSs, and radar facilities.

Personally, I'd probably just try another frequency from the same facility first. For example, if you're with approach, I'd look for another frequency even if it's for a neighboring chunk of airspace. Chances are the person I reach is sitting pretty close to the person I couldn't reach. If it's for tower, then I'd try a different tower frequency (North vs. South, Helicopter, etc.) or even a ground frequency.

 70 
 on: January 21, 2015, 01:16:34 PM 
Started by HelixSpiral - Last post by dave
Thanks for the report...this will hopefully be resolved by tomorrow.

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