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 on: October 04, 2014, 12:40:51 PM 
Started by philip - Last post by philip

 on: October 03, 2014, 04:24:29 PM 
Started by Kevin Meyers - Last post by Kevin Meyers
This guy loves to explain things in great detail on frequency, it's fantastic  grin

 on: October 03, 2014, 12:07:49 PM 
Started by philip - Last post by philip

 on: October 02, 2014, 02:52:16 PM 
Started by StuSEL - Last post by StuSEL

 on: October 02, 2014, 04:19:43 AM 
Started by swa4678 - Last post by StuSEL
Seriously.  To me the most remarkable thing about this clip is the helicopter pilot.  I have no idea what he said, and he clearly didn't follow the tower's instructions.  Yikes.
Yeah this is just stupid. Can't even believe it.

 on: October 01, 2014, 06:51:30 PM 
Started by janlam01 - Last post by Adrian8
Thanks again for the clips.

 on: October 01, 2014, 12:12:00 PM 
Started by bd1111 - Last post by bd1111
Has sounded fine for the last few days. Thanks. FWIW, the feed is missing Freq. 128.75 which is the Tower control for departures on Runway 25.

 on: October 01, 2014, 11:35:10 AM 
Started by stonemin - Last post by swa4678
As marty already pointed out, there is still some confusion about IFR/VFR and IMC/VMC. Nothing in the set of Instrument Flight Rules says that visual cues shall never be the primary method of, for example, navigating to a runway. After all, that's what a visual approach is.

so i wonder why visual approach is IFR.
Because it wouldn't make sense for it to be a VFR procedure. If you're flying VFR, you're already on one big visual approach (of sorts; you just don't have the runway or a preceding aircraft in sight at all times) to your destination since you must remain in VMC at all times.

With IFR, however, that's not the case. They will be using navaids or following vectors from the moment they depart up until they reach the terminal area of their destination. If the weather is VMC, they could save the controllers some hassle of getting them setup for an instrument approach by just proceeding visually to the runway. Hence why the "visual approach" procedure was created for such situations.

 on: October 01, 2014, 10:07:06 AM 
Started by stonemin - Last post by martyj19
Once more, whether you are on instruments or not has nothing to do with whether you are under IFR or VFR.  You have misunderstood that part.

You need to be on instruments any time you do not have sufficient vision outside the aircraft to keep it stable and upright.  You can only legally go below VFR minimums when you are IFR.  But you will fly visually when you are on a visual approach or the part of an instrument approach below minimums.

 on: October 01, 2014, 03:26:54 AM 
Started by stonemin - Last post by stonemin
really thank you..

actually, i understood that IFR means pilot must depend on the instrument not visual so far as. so i wonder why visual approach is IFR. because visual approach needs VMC and pilot must see the airport or the preceding aircraft.

but according to your answer, IFR means pilot mostly depends on the instrument, and also depends on their eye. is it correct?

if yes, i have misunderstood the meaning of IFR. Thanks for your answer. it really help me to understand about IFR and VFR.

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