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 91 
 on: November 19, 2016, 07:01:09 PM 
Started by GeoffSM1 - Last post by GeoffSM1
This is further to my post at

http://www.liveatc.net/forums/atcaviation-audio-clips/incident-at-san-diego-international-airport-lindbergh-field-(ksan)-on-1511/

Full details of the emergency here
 http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2016/11/incidents-occurred-november-15-2016-at.html

and here (with video).
http://www.cbs8.com/story/33716369/two-flights-make-precautionary-landings-at-lindbergh-field




 92 
 on: November 19, 2016, 04:45:46 PM 
Started by oktalist - Last post by VictorAtienza94
Thanks Oktalist for the audio!

I saw the news today in avherald but didn't have time to go through the feeds.

Video incoming soon on my channel! Smiley

 93 
 on: November 19, 2016, 02:26:07 PM 
Started by MIAMIATC - Last post by MIAMIATC
Ron there are still new feeds that  come online with lousy audio and/or wrong frequency listings of missing frequencies that are listed on new feeds. which I thought are carefully looked over before being approved for release. These feeds should be vetted and released upon reviewing if all information is correct.

Lets take for example VALDOSTA feed which shows 126.6 as a departure frequency(which seems to be vfr) however the other departure frequency that should be on there is 132.375(IFR TRAFFIC) that is missing. Ive sent 2 messages here in the last year and its not been added.

BOGOTA COLUMBIA is only transmitting on TOWER FREQ while it has listed 5 app/dep frequencies which are not scanned(also have brought to attention a year and half and no change)

LGGG which has listed 125.2 and 134.325 but in essence only has 125.2 on it and again I have  contacted LIVEATC several times on it and nothing happens even mentioning of an add of 124.625.

MPTO(PANAMA) where it has been told to me by Dave for a year and half the NORTH SECTOR would be added and it never has and has been subsequenctly discontinued.

LASTLY RON please address where a few feed operators have advised me that they cant accommodate frequency requests because DAVE would not allow it when they more than accommodate these requests(even temporary).

Dont say you are going to things when apparently is not the case. I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR CLOSE TO 15 YEARS and back in its inception we had quick results in taking care of these type of situations .

LASTLY ALOT OF THESE NEW FEEDS ARE NOT NEW FEEDS BUT OLD FEEDS THAT USED TO BE AVAILABLE(THIS IS MISLEADING TO THE NEWCOMERS  AND IS DECEPTIVE)


RANT OVER.


 94 
 on: November 19, 2016, 02:24:25 PM 
Started by oktalist - Last post by oktalist
http://avherald.com/h?article=4a0f786c

 95 
 on: November 19, 2016, 01:06:39 PM 
Started by GeoffSM1 - Last post by GeoffSM1
Another miscellany.
I apologise if I've previously posted some of these clips. I've not been as careful as I ought to have been with my file keeping/deleting.  sad

 96 
 on: November 19, 2016, 12:36:03 PM 
Started by GeoffSM1 - Last post by GeoffSM1
Miscellany from various dates and feeds.

 97 
 on: November 19, 2016, 12:15:53 PM 
Started by MIAMIATC - Last post by RonR
OK, my two cents worth:

1) Most of the feed providers have voluntarily hosted a feed.  That means that they provided the equipment at their own expense and LiveATC has provided the interface to the LiveATC network.  The provider of the feed, in most cases, offers to provide a feed voluntarily so that they put a particular frequency or frequencies that they want.  If they want to add more frequencies, it is generally up to the feed provider.  They may choose not to for whatever reason.

2) In the past I have been asked to try out different frequencies on a number of my feeds.  I have no problem entertaining those suggestions.  For me it's easy.  Some of the feeds I provide are sitting right next to me on my desk.  But I also know that there are many feeds out there that are not so easily accessible.  Some of my other feeds are at other locations and if there should be a problem with one of them, it's not always so easy to fix.  I can't always just drop what I'm doing to go and take care of a problem or try a different frequency.  And that problem would be the same, I'm sure, with all the other remote feeds here on LiveATC.

3) Of course, then there are those who might not be willing to experiment.  And that's their choice.

4) When feeds go away, in most cases, it's because the provider for whatever reason can no longer offer it.  Maybe he's moving, maybe his landlord doesn't like the antenna on the outside of the building, maybe he lost interest, who knows...sometimes feeds just go away without any notification.  It happens.  There's usually nothing that can be done about it.  Hopefully, someone will contact LiveATC and offer to provide an enroute ZOB feed.

5) I personally prefer to listen to ENROUTE feeds.  So, I'm happy for all the enroute feeds that do exist.  But I also understand that they might not be there forever so I will take what I can get and enjoy those that are available.

Bottom line?  Enjoy what is available.  LiveATC is the best site for listening to ATC.  More feeds appear almost every day, even ATIS feeds.  Just like there is an audience for enroute feeds, there's also an audience, smaller as it may be, for ATIS feeds.

Ron

 98 
 on: November 19, 2016, 11:15:04 AM 
Started by MIAMIATC - Last post by MIAMIATC
Yes to a point I can understand something is better than nothing principle but the site has seen an increase in Airport towers that have little to no action at all. Secondly these ATIS feeds are not needed. Who wants to hear a looped report of WX at airports. Thirdly I have put in so many requests to Dave here to address the issues of 1....wrong frequencies listed or frequencies that should be on a feed that should be checked out and quality of a feed(which to my understanding is checked before they go up) but they are let on anyway and are of subpar quality of sound and clarity. These issues I am told will be looked into and taken care of only to find months later they are not. How hard is it to have a feeder visit the radio and for no longer than 5 minutes add a frequency or 2 in and to make sure the feed is in working condition
? Also while I am here I have on a few occasions asked feeders to experiment with frequency tinkering(a few have) and thankfully but some are not willing or as I have been told by them that Dave would not approve it(EVEN IF IT IS FOR A TEMPORARY TIME PERIOD). How about these supposed new feeds that are coming up that were actually old feeds that were once here(misleading) ? My problem here is I dont like being lied to by saying to me we will check it out or it will be handled when it isnt after several months. How many redundant feeds that here as well ? I as many others here have talked about the disappearence of ENROUTE FEEDS. Its not only me. There is an audience that still enjoy ENROUTE . I know the usual reply will be is to donate a radio or money but some of us dont have that luxury. My opinion is that new feeds need to be thoroughly looked over to reflect what is being monitored and also is clear in clarity before they get approved because many feeds coming up sound like crap. I just wish that the amount of feeders increase in the willingness to add or delete frequencies to make feeds better and again few have done so but more is needed . My suggestions for the majority are told they are impractical without even  an attempt to see why but instead are shut down without even a reason. SUGGESTIONS OF LISTENERS SHOULD BE TAKEN AND TRIED OUT FIRST BEFORE THEY ARE SHOT DOWN AS UNREASONABLE

 99 
 on: November 19, 2016, 09:42:47 AM 
Started by Paulbc - Last post by VictorAtienza94
What a great community, I really love to be here everyday!!! grin grin grin

Three people, three different audios extending the information about the incident.

Thanks Geoff! smiley

 100 
 on: November 19, 2016, 08:18:27 AM 
Started by MIAMIATC - Last post by captkel
It's the Yin and Yang theory:

Two principles, one negative, dark, and feminine (yin) and one positive, bright, and masculine (yang) whose interaction influences the destinies of creatures and things.

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